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okay, i finally got this bitch dialed in,
as the board founder, its my duty to have an up and running beast, so i've been at it day and night, just ran at bradenton motorports park and trapped 123 in the 1/4 12.02 with a .600 r/t and a 1.8 60, with alittle more tooning, ill be in the 11's
not that bad, but fuck you , its a saturn 
am very happy now
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Great job ...at least you are at the track I have another week or two before my car is ready.
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As board founder and forum moderator it is YOUR responsibility to manage expecations and set fourth a good example. To that point, do you think your choice in words is acceptable?
Using words like "bad" and "saturn" does not reflect well on your or this board!
 
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| 123mph in the 1/4??? Dude, just get a better hook and you will be in the 11's. I ran an 11.5 at 121mph. I mean, keep tuning by all means, but as far as 11's go, you are already there if you can get better traction, Although 1.8 60' is pretty alright for a wrong wheel drive car.
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nefarious
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TimZ
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| shit is killin me guys, i have it at idle now, but right when it gets warm, it revs itself to about 3200 rpm's and stays, tps voltage is sustatined, tp doesn't change |
can you take a datalog of this happening?
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nefarious
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| Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| TimZ wrote: |
| nefarious wrote: |
| shit is killin me guys, i have it at idle now, but right when it gets warm, it revs itself to about 3200 rpm's and stays, tps voltage is sustatined, tp doesn't change |
can you take a datalog of this happening? |
ALREADY HAVE! LOL, yeah, i've been all over this, cant point my finger on it, its almost like, its been running strong for 5 years almost, and lately, its wanting to go crazy, but yeah i have a data log of this event if anyone wants to see it
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Jon@EMI
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I'll have a look if no one else will.
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Jon@EMI
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I got your datalog this morning and took a look.
Does this happen every time? There doesn't seen to be any particular trigger. That suggests to me that maybe there is a temperature or time triggered device that results in more air around the butterfly. Idle also seems to be really rich.
I can't think of anything else that might cause the problem without seeing your program.
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nefarious
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| Jon@EMI wrote: |
I got your datalog this morning and took a look.
Does this happen every time? There doesn't seen to be any particular trigger. That suggests to me that maybe there is a temperature or time triggered device that results in more air around the butterfly. Idle also seems to be really rich.
I can't think of anything else that might cause the problem without seeing your program. |
yeah, i does it everytime, the Idle air is completely disabled and blocked off, and the only way air gets in is the butterfly,
interesting you mentioned the temp trigger device, i've had this thing tuned for alaska and upper michigan, its never seen steady starting temps above the 70's, but once again, everyone of these problems started happening after is swapped clutches, which puzzles the hell out of me,
im just gonna create another full blown binfile/tooning session and will report my results, thanks for takin a look there Jon!
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4SFED4
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Nef... send me a copy, I may not be able to add but I take a shot.
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nefarious
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TimZ
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I can take a look too - send along a copy of your .bin file, too if you would.
tzwicky_at_gmail.com
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4SFED4
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Yes, send me a copy of your bin too.
Questions on the data file:
1. Why is your AFR so high? Running at 20.X:1 at idle? Did you notice when your idle jumps to 38xx your AFR's drop to 14.X:1. Not sure what it means but they seem connected.
2. Are you using IAC? Why the surging before and after elevated idle?
3. Was the car fully warm at this point? Based on CLT it is only at 40C but if the engine was fully warmed you CLT is reporting incorrectly.
4. What was ambient temperature the day this log was made?
5. Why does your MAP read 120kPa before start? Do you live well below sea level?
No answers yet.. but perhaps if we answer enough of the right questions we will get to the bottom of it.
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